Mick asks, "It's clearly easier to assign _Twelve Blue_ in a class than to assign _afternoon_, since Twelve Blue is upweb. What was the reason Eastgate decided to put that hypertext in that available form?"
MichaelJ says, "Because the author insisted upon it, over exactly these kinds of objections"
Mick smiles
Sandye grins
MichaelJ says, "Mark was (rightly) worried that folks would read 12B rather than afty"
bernstein says, "not *exactly* these objections, but objections nonetheless"
Joel nods at MichaelJ.
Mick asks, "Mark was probably right ... but I guess "giving away" one Joyce work might lead to the purchase of additional Joyce works ... sort of the shareware theory of writing?"
MichaelJ says, "The bigger fight, btw, was with Johns Hopkins Uiversity who tried to keep me from co-publishing and then wanted to drag the dead carcass of 12b into their Project Muse den"
Mick nods Michael J
bernstein says, "I think literature is best served by creating a literary world where writers can earn a living."
Mick says, "I have a really long slide here ... it follows much of the discussion we are having here, and ties into our Coverweb on IP/copyright.  I'll post it for you all to read, and then go for a little walk. :-)"
MichaelJ says, "The Norton anthology question was one where Mark and I shared worries. On the one hand a Norton is a (canonical) Norton, one the other people can feel (as they always do with Nortys) that they have read the work once they've read the anthologized parts"

A SLIDE:

What opportunities (and concurrent responsibilities) to we provide first-year and beyond writing students in having them read (and create) hypertext rather than a more traditional approach?  Is working up a webbed response to "Twelve Blue" or a Storyspace response to "Victory Garden" qualitatively different from writing a collaborative essay reacting to "Bartleby the Scrivener"?

bernstein says, "We live in the midst of a capitalist world; we can opt out, we can go along, or we can build a better literary world."
Mick exclaims, "oops!  Wrong slide!!!"
Mick says, "Here it is ..."
bernstein says, "A better world is what we're aiming for; shareware and samizdat are not, I think, the best we can hope for."