Mick asks, "OK, let me ask this ... is hypertext an art (we say "state of the art") in the first place?  Or is it a tool?  A medium?"
Sandye throws her hands in the air
Mick [to Sandye]: why?
bernstein says, "Of course it's all three. Like the theater, or scultpure."
Sandye nods bernstein.. I can't separate the components from the whole like that
Joel wonders if Bernstein and/or MichaelJ would describe, then, a forum that would be better-suited for hypertext publication ... if publication indeed is appropriate or possible for hypertext.   This could, of course, be a way of asking Mick's question, but fishing for a concrete kind of composition format for hypertexts.
Mick [to bernstein]: I dunno if you can equate it with sculpture, in which the finished product is pretty static. I like your answer, and think I agree with it ... I once argued hypertext was a "rhetorical situation."  That may be a bit of a stretch.
MichaelJ says, "hypertext is a metaphor for a confluence of understandings of how we represent the world, it is the natural language of computers, in retrospect we will see that even the earliest operating systems or db's were hypertexts, as was the teevee channel zapper"
Mick . o O ( I sense Michael Joyce quoting his own work here ... ;-)   )
MichaelJ [to Joel]: There is no better forum than the web, we just need a better web
Mick [to MichaelJ]: Grumpy Old CS Guys would say "poppycock, the natural language of computers is *binary*
bernstein says, "no old CS I *I* know would say such a thing."
MichaelJ [to Mick]: Nope, not at all. I swore off it for this interview. it's all coming from my busy fingers but if you'd rather I can toss chunks into the datastorm
bernstein says, "English professors say CS guys think this, but it's simply specious"
Mick [to bernstein]: fair enough.