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Archive for WOSTJ111-000-FALL-2000 on Oct 3, 2000
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JILDA SHARP > Greetings!
BOBBIDAWN LEGRAND > anyone there?
BOBBIDAWN LEGRAND > hey
JILDA SHARP > Good evening! I was beginning to wonder if this would actually work!
BOBBIDAWN LEGRAND > I'm ready to get this project over and get all the worries about it behind me
BOBBIDAWN LEGRAND > me too
BOBBIDAWN LEGRAND > every time I come in, no one is on
JILDA SHARP > I agree. I'll be relieved to have this project completed. Did you have a chance to look at the page?
BOBBIDAWN LEGRAND > yes, i thought it looked great
BOBBIDAWN LEGRAND > I have info on earhart and ride and three others to add
JILDA SHARP > Great! Are they in a file.... that you could "File Exchange" and I'll get that loaded this evening.
BOBBIDAWN LEGRAND > i saved them to a disk, i was going to type everything out about each person at work but I didn't know if what i typed it
on would be compatible or not
BOBBIDAWN LEGRAND > i thought you could give some suggestions on how i could give you that
JILDA SHARP > I have Word at my home, and office. As long as I can print the information, I'll be able to use it.
JILDA SHARP > If you wanted to just type the info in an email message, I can cut and paste. Did the photos suit you? Or did you find some
others you'd prefer to use?
BOBBIDAWN LEGRAND > okay, i have word here, but at work he has a funny program
BOBBIDAWN LEGRAND > no, i think the photos are fine
JILDA SHARP > I can always cut and paste if I need to. That's not a problem.
BOBBIDAWN LEGRAND > i also have photos of victoria woodhull (first women to run for president as well as the first female stockbroker)
elizabeth blackwell (first women doctor) and maria mitchell (first women member of the american academy of arts and sciences)
BOBBIDAWN LEGRAND > i can get more women and photos as well if you would like me too
JILDA SHARP > Moving along to the analysis --- should we put each analysis with the photo and "blurb" ... or do a final analysis at the end.
JILDA SHARP > I like the one's you've chosen. I don't want it to get so large that we have a hard time finishing the project.
BOBBIDAWN LEGRAND > I will just email all the info on the women to you, i guess that will be the easiest thing to do
BOBBIDAWN LEGRAND > i think that a separate analysis would be the most effective
JILDA SHARP > Did you receive the email I forwarded you that I'd received from Dr. Rashley?

Logistics Students spent a great deal of time in discussions like these working out the logistical details of completing group work online.  These students never met in person, so there were also a fair number of social negotiations required as people got to know each other while working in their groups.  In their anonymous course evaluations at the end of the semester, many students complained about the difficulties of negotatiating the group projects—one student wrote that "communicating with other group members" was a significant barrier to their success in these projects.  Another student noted that coordinating these activities defeated the purpose of taking an online class for her, that "most of us took the course for flexibility, not to have to meet others' schedule demands."  The most common difficulties in communicating about the group projects, however, were technical:  the failures of the softward, frequent internet outages in the University servers, and a chat program that could be very slow to load for a student working on a computer at home with a modem.

BOBBIDAWN LEGRAND > how do i get the photos to you? load them in the ditigal drop box?
BOBBIDAWN LEGRAND > yes, i printed it out
JILDA SHARP > Load the photos in the "File Exchange". I can't retrieve anything from the drop box. If you got them from the web, all I'll need is
the URL and a small description of the picture in order to retrieve it.
BOBBIDAWN LEGRAND > i think it is important that most of these women were "firsts." I think it is really important to mention that they have
paved the way for women in today's society. Some are well known, but others people probably have never heard of
BOBBIDAWN LEGRAND > where is the file exchange located?
BOBBIDAWN LEGRAND > in the group section?
JILDA SHARP > It should be in the Group section.
BOBBIDAWN LEGRAND > okay, than i will load them in there and send you all the info on each person in a email
BOBBIDAWN LEGRAND > once you get it all you can decide who you would like to put on the page
BOBBIDAWN LEGRAND > i didn't know if five would be too many but i wanted you to have a selection to choose from
JILDA SHARP > You send as many as you wish. I believe the more information we have, the better the page will be.
JILDA SHARP > Of course, we don't want to overwhelm ourselves.
JILDA SHARP > If you'll bear with me a moment -- I'll load the blurbs about each women on the whiteboard above. Cross your fingers!
JILDA SHARP > I still don't have the hang of this.
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JILDA SHARP > What do you think about the "blurb" for Marvin Breckinridge?
BOBBIDAWN LEGRAND > i just tried to add a picture to the file exchange, but it didn't work. unfortunately i didn't keep the url addresses from
each one
BOBBIDAWN LEGRAND > which one is that?
JILDA SHARP > No problem. Just send me the info that you have, and I'll try to locate the photos on the web.
JILDA SHARP > Marvin Breckinridge was the women who was the war photographer/correspondent.
LISA RASHLEY > hey yall, i have a really slow internet connection tonight, so i'm going to quickly browse through your earlier chat, and yall be
thinking of any questions you have.
JILDA SHARP > Glad you could join us.
BOBBIDAWN LEGRAND > what i will do is go to fortunecity.com and create a page. i will just add all those photos to the page and you can copy
them
BOBBIDAWN LEGRAND > i will send you the url, it won't take long
JILDA SHARP > That will be fine.
BOBBIDAWN LEGRAND > i don't want you to have to do any more work than you have already done
BOBBIDAWN LEGRAND > i will add the info for each women on that page too
JILDA SHARP > For Ms. Breckinrdige -- Being a war photographer/correspondent certainly smashes the mold! I don't know of too many women
who would have wanted to do that job!
BOBBIDAWN LEGRAND > i agree
BOBBIDAWN LEGRAND > i think it would be good to make the theme women who have paved the way for other women in society
JILDA SHARP > Good.
BOBBIDAWN LEGRAND > it seems like all of the women that we have pictures for fit into that theme
BOBBIDAWN LEGRAND > it would be a easy one to work with
BOBBIDAWN LEGRAND > a easy analysis to make
BOBBIDAWN LEGRAND > is anyone else joining us
JILDA SHARP > I'm not too sure about the Coco Chanel analysis. Maybe we should delete her -- since you'll be adding some new "girls" to the
mix.
JILDA SHARP > I'm not sure. We haven't had much help with the project to date -- so it's no telling if anyone else will join us.
BOBBIDAWN LEGRAND > we could, it seems like all the women, except for her, are doing things that are mostly done by men
BOBBIDAWN LEGRAND > that's no good
BOBBIDAWN LEGRAND > or at one time were done exclusively by men
JILDA SHARP > Amelia Earhardt should be very easy to analyze. She successfully paved the way for female pilots. The doors she opened may
not be wide -- but there's a definite crack in the doorjamb.
LISA RASHLEY > i just finished reading the chat so far and looking at the web page again--just in time to see your question about if anybody else
is coming. i really apologize to yall that your group hasn't been more active....
JILDA SHARP > Well, I'm sure that BobbiDawn and I will reflect that on our participation evaluations!
BOBBIDAWN LEGRAND > do we have to make a analysis on each one, or just a central analysis of the theme and how each one fits into it
JILDA SHARP > It may be more convenient to do a central analysis, and drop each women into place.
LISA RASHLEY > yes, i know you will. i did want to let you know that i had an email today from debra mccarter--she hasn't been able to log into
class lately, but she's trying to get back to yall.
BOBBIDAWN LEGRAND > i hadn't heard from anyone else except from you and debroah, i wonder what everyone else is thinking
JILDA SHARP > Lisa -- will a centralized analysis fit well with our project?
LISA RASHLEY > let's see.
LISA RASHLEY > i have a couple of thoughts about your page, so i think i'll mention those and then let yall ask questions or see if that already
answers it.
LISA RASHLEY > one thing that i noticed when looking at the page is that i really wanted to click on the names of the women--they're underlined
like links, you know, so i kept floating over them.
LISA RASHLEY > so i wondered if you were going to have separate pages for each woman.
BOBBIDAWN LEGRAND > i did the same thing also
LISA RASHLEY > BUT you don't have to! i'm still in the questoin asking stage
LISA RASHLEY > so that suggests a couple of options to me.
JILDA SHARP > I see your point. That will be a really simple fix. I had thought the same thing -- but was totally unsure abou the links. I believe
we'll be putting more work on ourselves if we do separate pages.
LISA RASHLEY > either you could write a bit more detailed description of each woman and link to a page with that description and with the page
again. that may be a lot of work.
LISA RASHLEY > ah! great minds think alike even in chat lag!
LISA RASHLEY > OR you could try to make the page look more like a document you read down, rather than something you link to bits and
pieces of.
LISA RASHLEY > so that the sections look like a part of a whole, rather than intros to something else.
JILDA SHARP > I believe it would be easier (time, work, etc) to do a centralized analysis and tie everything in. Would that work for you
BobbiDawn?
LISA RASHLEY > that would give you the option of having a centralized analysis throughout your discussion of each of the women, rather tha
BOBBIDAWN LEGRAND > do you think it would be better to have just pictures on the first page and then when you click on the names it takes
you to another page with the picture but a detailed description of the female
LISA RASHLEY > rather than having to tie all those women together at the end.
JILDA SHARP > That would work simply enough. It would take about 2 seconds to load individual pages, with a short summary paragraph about
each women, and our analysis.
LISA RASHLEY > however, having said all that, i do want to emphasize that an important part of the presentation also needs to be some analysis
of the
BOBBIDAWN LEGRAND > i think it might be easy to tie all these women together in a central analysis
LISA RASHLEY > women, not just descriiptions of them--the easier question is analysis migh
LISA RASHLEY > ah, lag, you keep answering my questions right when i ask them! sorry!
LISA RASHLEY > since you two seem agreed on a centralized analysis, do you have some ideas about what aspects you want to focus on for
that analysis?
BOBBIDAWN LEGRAND > i think the best would be one intro page with all the women, one page that links to each description from the picture
and one page that links to the final analysis
JILDA SHARP > No problem. That's an easy edit.
BOBBIDAWN LEGRAND > what do you think a good analysis would be jil?
JILDA SHARP > From the general concensus from my research, all the ladies we've chosen have been a pioneer in their respective fields.
LISA RASHLEY > while you're on easy edits, could you also make the links to the citations a bigger font? i'm not really old and blind yet, but my
eyes are definitely going.
JILDA SHARP > They have either paved new roads, or totally blown the "boys network" out of the water.
LISA RASHLEY > how would you want to talk about being pioneers, then?
BOBBIDAWN LEGRAND > i think that is good, most have been pioneers and have worked in fields that at one time females didn't enter into
JILDA SHARP > Yes, I'll fix the font sizes. Thanks for the advice. I tend to downsize rather than "go large"
JILDA SHARP > Amelia Earhardt and Darla Moore are just two to the women that totally blew the men out of the water.
LISA RASHLEY > you mean they defeated men's expectations of what women ought to be?
BOBBIDAWN LEGRAND > i agree and victoria woodhull who ran for president way back in 1872 even before women even had the right to vote
LISA RASHLEY > you know hardly anybody knows that women have run for president before?
JILDA SHARP > I believed they changed not only the way they were perceived, but they may have changed their own way of thinking.
JILDA SHARP > I didn't know that!
LISA RASHLEY > a number of women have run for the office--just not as major party candidates.
LISA RASHLEY > argh, i'm missing the debates! i forgot!
 

Faculty Work Load I tried to participate in every chat session that my students' groups did, and I did make most of them.  (This group and I had a truly funny discussion about parenting and gender one night while working because I had to interrupt our chat one night to go braid Princess Barbie's hair for my then five-year old.  Several of the students in the course were older than I was, and, as parents with older children, had a great deal to say about what would happen when my daughter because a teenager.) While I knew going into the course that sessions like these would take a considerable amount of time, I'll confess that I still thought that teaching an online course would allow me a great deal of freedom, in that I could choose the times I would work.  Of course I knew that this class would involve considerably more work that one taking place traditional classroom, but I was truly stunned by the amount of time I spent online with these students.  Since my most important goal for the course's delivery method was to create a highly personal and interactive classroom environment, though, I suppose I should have realized that this meant creating personal relationships with thirty students through email.  While I did establish a great deal of the atmosphere of the course through my tone in the writing of my assignments and in my own participation in chat sessions and discussion forums, I also spent just a substantial amount of time emailing students individually.  I recieved about 640 email from students enrolled in the course that semester (which still only averages about 22 email per student!), and I sent 1561 messages from 17 August to 22 December 2000, most of which were either to students enrolled in the course or about adminstrative or technical issues.  And some of those were just plain complaining to my friends about the work load!

JILDA SHARP > Each woman chosen seemed to fill a space that society, both women and men, didn't know was there to begin with.
JILDA SHARP > I mean, they accomplished something that was a great feat in itself, for either male or female.
JILDA SHARP > The fact that a women did it just made it all the sweeter!
BOBBIDAWN LEGRAND > i agree
JILDA SHARP > Taking into consideration, of course, that women have typically been viewed as frail creatures that needed to be "handled".
LISA RASHLEY > let me give yall a couple of questions to think over--
LISA RASHLEY > are you going to discuss the women's personal lives as well as their public contributions?
BOBBIDAWN LEGRAND > i didn't see much about their personal lives
LISA RASHLEY > are you going to have any information about how people perceive them during that time?
JILDA SHARP > I believe it would be easier to discuss their accomplishments rather than personal lives.
LISA RASHLEY > and are you thinking about
BOBBIDAWN LEGRAND > i didn't see anything about how people perceived them either, i guess we could infer
JILDA SHARP > We may find more information about their accomplishments, rather than the personal lives. Personal lives of "celebrities" tend to
be rather homogenous.
LISA RASHLEY > whether these women are viewed as people who've made special achievements and are execptions (SP!)?
LISA RASHLEY > in other words, are these considered to be very unsual women, and most women couldn't achieve these things?
LISA RASHLEY > do you see what i mean?
JILDA SHARP > Yes, I see your point. I believe the accomplishments, in a few cases, were because they were women.
BOBBIDAWN LEGRAND > well most of the things aren't unusual now, but they were unusual when they achieved them
LISA RASHLEY > i'm asking all these questions not becuase i think you need to do those things necessarily
LISA RASHLEY > instead i'm interested in hearing about how these women are viewed in our culture today--as trailblzers?
JILDA SHARP > Given the times, figuratively speaking, that these women excelled in -- yes, they were trailblazers.
LISA RASHLEY > i think i'm confusing myself--i hope not yall too.
LISA RASHLEY >
JILDA SHARP > I believe that was the point of their acclaim. That it was unusual for a woman to be a pilot, and a war correspondent, and a
successful businesswoman
JILDA SHARP > They were, and still are, trailblazers. They didn't give a hoot about convention. They excelled because it was their passion.
LISA RASHLEY > do you think it was harder for them than for men to make comparable accomplishments? (i'm guessing yes, but i'm a bit
biased!)
BOBBIDAWN LEGRAND > oh, i'm sure. it's always harder when you have people against what you are doing
JILDA SHARP > Of course! It was unexpected, unappreciated at the time, unconventional. Dare I say, unnatural?
LISA RASHLEY > an unnatural woman--not an uncommon phrase a while ago.
LISA RASHLEY > are any of these questions helping?
JILDA SHARP > Most definitely.
BOBBIDAWN LEGRAND > my question is are we headed in the proper direction?
LISA RASHLEY > yes
BOBBIDAWN LEGRAND > are we doing what the assignment is asking of us
LISA RASHLEY > i think what you have now looks very good--
JILDA SHARP > So, for the most part, our analysis could -- simply stated -- should be our opinion on what we perceive these women
accomplished.
LISA RASHLEY > i think the work you need still to do is expand on the bios a bit, either on that page or on linked pages for each woman (that's
entirely up to you).
JILDA SHARP > By that, I mean, we should comment on the roles of women -- for the time period in which they excelled.
BOBBIDAWN LEGRAND > how long should the analysis be?
LISA RASHLEY > and
LISA RASHLEY >
LISA RASHLEY > How does the object you're analyzing reflect our culture's ideas about gender, sex roles?--does it reinforce traditional
LISA RASHLEY > htattitudes, or does it offer reinterpretations of those ideas? (
LISA RASHLEY > so yall are talking abou the way those women have begun to redefine what people think women can do.
JILDA SHARP > I think that kind of, sorta, sums up what we're trying to say. That each woman made an impact on society, not just women.
LISA RASHLEY > bobbidawn, i'm not sure how long--it depends on how you approached it, whetehr in the bios or on separate page.
LISA RASHLEY > but think about this.
LISA RASHLEY > i've been looking at the photos you have on the page--they're very telling.
JILDA SHARP > Please elaborate.
LISA RASHLEY > look at the photographer--her posture, the prominence of the camera, her directness in looking at you.
LISA RASHLEY > she's a woman who would tell you to hell with them, you can see it in the picture.
LISA RASHLEY > but darla moore's picture is very different.
JILDA SHARP > Each seem to have a defience about them.
LISA RASHLEY > do the images of the women also tell you something about how they represent themselves?
LISA RASHLEY > and the great archived image, the girl's fight for a living
BOBBIDAWN LEGRAND > can we have you look at the final draft of the web page before it is due and you can give us suggestions?
LISA RASHLEY > can you look at her posture, her cloothes, all those things there to see what messages people then were sending aobut what
women's work was?
LISA RASHLEY > i'd be happy to look at the draft again. just let me know when you've made chagnes
JILDA SHARP > I know that the archived image might not tie in -- but it kind of rolled the whole image of a "girl" up in a neat little package for me.

LISA RASHLEY > i think it's great!
LISA RASHLEY > it's a very rich image for analysis
LISA RASHLEY > what year was that, anyhow?
LISA RASHLEY > well, listen. i feel like i'm hogging your conversation here.
JILDA SHARP > Some housekeeping chores -- what should BobbiDawn and I do about the rest of our group? Should I email them a copy of our
discussion and ask them to participate in the writing?
LISA RASHLEY > how about i let yall think about some of these questions and talk without me butting in every two seconds?
LISA RASHLEY > yes, you certainly can do that. you can either cut and paste it directly into the email
LISA RASHLEY > or tell them to
JILDA SHARP > I'm not sure that year the first picture is from -- although I'd love to know! That little picture had a few things to say to me.
LISA RASHLEY > go to Groups > whatever group # yall are > Group Virtual classroom > browse classroom archives.
LISA RASHLEY > you can always see previous discussions there.
LISA RASHLEY > however, if they're already being bums and not showing up for chat, you may have to be prepared for their not helping.
LISA RASHLEY > i would recommend not making your lives too terribly hard--don't include billions of women
LISA RASHLEY > and if others do show up and seem willing to work, give them other women to add that you couldn't get to.
LISA RASHLEY > that way they can make an addition to your work without their absence leaving a big hole, you know what i mean?
JILDA SHARP > That would be easy enough to do. Yes, I certainly do.
LISA RASHLEY > and please let me assure you two that you will be getting great participation grades, and others will not.
LISA RASHLEY > people who didn't show up at all will not be benefiting from you work in the group
JILDA SHARP > Thanks for getting me looking at the photos we've chosen. It never occurred to me that I was walking down a "theme" road and I
didn't even know it.
LISA RASHLEY > and again i apologize. this is not what a group is supposed to be.
BOBBIDAWN LEGRAND > jil, tell me what you want me to do, i still have a test to study for- i will defintely get those pics and descriptions to
you either in the file transfer or in the form of a url
JILDA SHARP > Either will suit me. If it's easier for you to file transfer, do that. If it's easier to URL, do that. Either way -- I can run.
BOBBIDAWN LEGRAND > sometime tonight, hopefully not too late
JILDA SHARP > No problem. I've got a little "tweeking" to do with the women I've started writing on. I also have a test to study for... ECON in the
morning!
BOBBIDAWN LEGRAND > i haven't been able to file transfer so i will probably drop all the pics and descriptions of on my own web page so you
can pick them up and copy them
LISA RASHLEY > do you two have any more questions for me? if not, i'll let you two get down to logistics.
LISA RASHLEY > just let me know when you'd like me to look at the web page again.
BOBBIDAWN LEGRAND > i have to study for a pre-lab and i have a crju test also, not to mention writing all the descriptions for the women
LISA RASHLEY > you two ok without me, then?
JILDA SHARP > Thanks, Lisa. You've heading me in the right direction. I'll have another "draft" for you to look at tomorrow.
JILDA SHARP > Yes, and thanks for joining us.
BOBBIDAWN LEGRAND > no, i don't have any more ?'s
BOBBIDAWN LEGRAND > thanks for taking time out to chat with us. i appreciate it
LISA RASHLEY > ok, you two email me if you need help. if you plan to chat again, let me know when and i'll try to be there.
JILDA SHARP > Thanks.
BOBBIDAWN LEGRAND > okay
LISA RASHLEY > yall are doing good work. i look forward to seeing your final product! see you soon!
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JILDA SHARP > BobbiDawn -- just email me with your web page address and I'll get the stuff from there. I'll be online for about another hour or
so. If you don't have it by then, no problem.
BOBBIDAWN LEGRAND > jil, do we need to discuss anything else?
JILDA SHARP > I can always check it in the morning when I get to work.
BOBBIDAWN LEGRAND > okay, i will try to get it done tonight.
JILDA SHARP > Do you feel we've gotten some good "hints" from Lisa?
BOBBIDAWN LEGRAND > yes, i think that the central theme is the best idea. that is what i was thinking all along when i was picking out the
women, for some reason i kept being pulled toward women
BOBBIDAWN LEGRAND > who had first accomplished something
JILDA SHARP > You've done a great job! I
JILDA SHARP > I
BOBBIDAWN LEGRAND > you've done a great job as well. i am sorry that you've had to do so much work
JILDA SHARP > I'll be working on the analysis of the women that are already posted. I'll move them to their own page, and create a few pages for
your entries.

Participation Because of the difficulties of coordinating many people's schedules while working on the group projects, and because of the nature of groupwork in general, we had some problems with participation.  Several students opted out of the group projects either completely, or to a significant degree; as a result, group facilitators spent a fair amount of time begging for help, and in several cases, the burden of the work rested squarely on the shoulders of two or three students in a group of five or six.  The end of this session shows the beginning of one particularly difficult email exchange amont students, really only one of two that even approached the anger and frustration that characterizes a flame war.  This chat had originally been scheduled for 10:00 to accomodate Deborah's work schedule, but through some miscommunication, was moved up to 8:30 or 9:00 (I'm still not sure about all these details!).  Because the groups frequently emailed each other, I didn't receive everyone's email, and only became aware of this problem very early the next morning, when I came in to find 5 email waiting for me from the various group members (and this was between the time I logged out of the class at 9:40 and when I came in to work the next morning at 8:30!).  The problem took very little effort for the students to resolve among themselves, and I did send an email or two reminding everyone that we were all just working towards a good presentation—but this kind of exchange clearly illustrates the need to take care as a participant in group activity in this venue.

BOBBIDAWN LEGRAND > k
JILDA SHARP > Please take a minute and tell me who your "ladies" are so I can get a page started that matches the other "stuff"
BOBBIDAWN LEGRAND > amelia earhart, sally ride, maria mitchell, and victoria woodhull
JILDA SHARP > That's great. I'll add the two new pages, and work on the three I've got -- Darla Moore, Kate Matthews, Marvin Breckinridge.
BOBBIDAWN LEGRAND > that sounds good, when we get all that completed we can work on the analysis page
JILDA SHARP > No problem. I think that's about it. Do you have anything you need to ask me?
BOBBIDAWN LEGRAND > i'm glad that we got it extended till sunday, it sure seems like we have a lot of work for this class
BOBBIDAWN LEGRAND > no, i don't believe i have any more ?'s
JILDA SHARP > I agree. Of course, I think it would be this much if we were really in a classroom. It just seems like more because we're doing
the work at home.
BOBBIDAWN LEGRAND > i don't know, it seems like this class is keeping me pretty busy
JILDA SHARP > Okay. I'll check my email before I head offline around 11pm.
BOBBIDAWN LEGRAND > well i am going to get going so i can get working on my women
JILDA SHARP > If you don't have time this evening to get to your "girls", no problem. Just email me when you have everything on you rpage and
I'll retrieve and edit.
JILDA SHARP > Have a blessed evening -- what's left of it.
BOBBIDAWN LEGRAND > hopefully i will have it by 11, if not i will get it to you ASAP
BOBBIDAWN LEGRAND > good luck on your test tomorrow
JILDA SHARP > Okay. Talk with you soon. Same to you!
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DEBORAH CREMEANS has entered. [ 10:14:28 PM ]
DEBORAH CREMEANS > Hello all!
DEBORAH CREMEANS > Anybody out there?
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DEBORAH CREMEANS has entered. [ 10:28:15 PM ]
DEBORAH CREMEANS > Hello!
DEBORAH CREMEANS > I'm leaving for a moment to check archives, be right back.
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